Choosing counseling to work with addicts
Aveline Clark (Host) · 21:24
Is there someone that stands out for you as, as being a help to you during those 17 years before you came to Australia?
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 21:36
Yes, I had some friends, but what happened is people get tired. They help you in the first years and then they just give up. And I don't have any resentment because You can't look after others for the rest of our life. You know what I mean? Yeah. I did basically everything by myself.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 21:59
So have you created a path or a life for yourself now to be the solution for the problem that you needed solving? Yeah.
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 22:09
Back earlier on? Yeah. And to be honest, I truly believe everything that happens in life, can be the worst situation ever, will be a good side. We always have to see the good side. And in my case, I love Australia so much. And this was a good side of my addiction. Because if I didn't have my addiction at the time, I wouldn't be here today. That's true. You know?
Aveline Clark (Host) · 22:40
Yeah, so looking back, what would have been the key kind of highlights or gold nuggets that you've learned from this journey? It's a very interesting journey that you've been on.
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 22:51
Yeah, from the addiction that you lose so many things, you hurt so many people, you get hurt a lot, depressed, down, and it's not worth, it's not worth at all. But at the same time, I, I can't stop my life. I love mindfulness. I The concept of mindfulness, it is forget about the past. You can't change. And I use this in my daily life. Why? Why I'll lose my time and my energy thinking about my past? I had a difficult past. It's not worth, it's not good for my mental health to think about. Already happened, I cannot change. So live a good life nowadays. That's pretty powerful.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 23:36
You're right. Yeah, we can't change our past, yet so many people do spend so much time and invest a lot of energy in the past. So what, how can someone use their past as a growth tool?
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 23:51
Yeah, I think there are things in the past, of course, that are good things that you can remember. For example, if I remember about my addiction, any problem, because we still having problems. We have problems, every single one. But when I have problem, I problem, I just look and say, I had a difficult past from addiction and I overcome and I'm here. I'm not losing my energy with this problem, you know what I mean? And I think this is the lesson, make us resilient, stronger for life. But things that are upsetting about your past, just forget. Is not worth. You cannot change.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 24:32
So true, so simple, and yet exactly so true. It's just practice, because always try.
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 24:40
When you start to think, can I change? No. So let's forget. And the future, of course, you can work in our futures, but there are some things in the future that are not in our hands. We— you don't need to use your energy about that as well. What you can't control, because not good for mental health either. So the focus is your present. Live like an amazing present where you can focus, know what you're doing, know what you don't want to do.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 25:09
You've got this beautiful energy about you, Luiz, and a smile for those that are listening to this audio podcast and can't see your, the video of this. And you just radiate joy. You really do. And so your story surprises me, and yet it doesn't surprise me because it feels to me like you, you, you did the hard yards, you did the time to work out what was most important. And now you are happy. You're choosing to be happy and you've got joy inside of you.
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 25:46
Exactly. And life is beautiful and you have the option. I have two options: I wake up and have an amazing day, or I wake up and have a bad day. I can manage that. I can manage how things will destroy my day or not. Of course, sometimes everyone— don't get me wrong, you have bad days, but you are in control. I'm not allowing that difficult situation destroy all my day. I'll get stressed, I'll get upset, but I have to evaluate, is it worth?
Aveline Clark (Host) · 26:20
You studied a master's in counseling, so you're obviously helping people now. Am I right? Exactly. Yes. And how is that going? Are they people that have had similar journeys to you or, or different journeys?
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 26:33
Yes. Yes. I work at the Overcomers Place. We do group addiction, group therapy for addicts. It's really rewarding. For the clients, they know you had the same experience and you overcome. This motivates them to overcome their addiction. And always, well, what I tell them, it is baby steps, baby steps, be patient in your journey and everything could be fine, but depends just on you.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 27:04
And I assume you speak to them about the need to trust in themselves because that's what you had to learn. And what you did. Yes, yes.
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 27:16
We teach some techniques to them, some exercises. They can do homework because daily practice, they have to do their part to overcome their addiction.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 27:27
How important is it for you to help them find something to look forward to? Because you had Australia to look forward to. You had Australia to, you know, to take you away from Brazil and the drugs. How do you relate that to your clients, people now?
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 27:46
Yeah, each person is unique. You have to see what works for them. Uh, many of my clients, they have families, they have children, and my advice always: talk to your family. You have all this beautiful support. They are on your side in this journey. Because they want to see you well. And it really depends on the client. It makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. What I like to work is in the trauma. Many, many times the client doesn't know what's their trauma. And when you recognize your trauma, everything goes smoothly, much, much easier.
Aveline Clark (Host) · 28:25
I've done a little bit of research into trauma, and I know that it wasn't really recognized a few decades ago. It's only it's only been, I don't know, is it last 10, sort of 15 years that it's sort of become more mainstream and spoken about as something that many people go through. Is that right?
Luiz Ferriera (Guest) · 28:44
Yes, yes. And anyone can have trauma because sometimes something happened with me didn't cause any impact, but can be a trauma for you. A dog can bite you and be a trauma for you. A dog can bite me and I'll be playing, smiling, you know what I mean? Yeah. And you have many people with like big traumas, and the most important is to know that you can change the situation.