Donna Kent
Rebuilding My Life After the Unthinkable | Donna Kent
Donna Kent survived childhood abuse, domestic violence, and suicide attempt by learning to speak, heal actively, and help others find hope.
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Donna Kent
Donna Kent survived childhood abuse, domestic violence, and suicide attempt by learning to speak, heal actively, and help others find hope.
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Donna Kent grew up in constant fear, unable to speak. Her earliest memory is of abuse at three years old, on Christmas Eve. What followed was a childhood marked by sexual abuse at home, on the street, and in places she was taken by adults who should have protected her. She learned early that speaking up meant severe consequences, so she stayed silent, letting out only small tears before pulling herself back together. Survival meant moving forward, no matter what.
At fifteen, pregnant and cast out with ten dollars and an hour's notice, Donna landed in the care of her ex-boyfriend's family. A few years later, at a party, she was raped for hours by someone her friend had set up. That night, alone at a train station with a handful of pills, she decided she could not survive anymore. A stranger on the first train found her and called an ambulance. Donna woke in hospital terrified of police, grabbed her clothes, and ran.
She met her first husband in a pub and settled for what felt like a step up from where she had been, only to find herself in another abusive relationship. When he found her new place, she fled to Mount Isa with a friend, where she met the man who would change everything. Her second husband saw her as whole, not broken. He gave her safety and time to heal at her own pace. At 38, finally in a safe marriage, Donna told someone her entire story for the first time. Through hypnotherapy and later EMDR, she confronted her father, wrote him a letter, and felt the grip in her throat finally loosen. The memories stopped replaying. She could start living instead of surviving. Then, at 44, just as she felt ready to stand as an equal beside her husband, he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and died two weeks later. Donna now helps others find hope by showing them how to look at their problems from a different angle. Her message to women in abusive situations is clear: speak up, and the prison door breaks open.
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“Your silence is what gives them the power. Have a voice, speak up, yep, and it'll just break that prison cell door wide open.”
“While you're sitting there watching a set of fingers going in a pattern in front of your eyes, the memory and the emotion connect. And that then allows it to be archived and put in your memory library on a shelf.”
“When you get to that point of fighting for yourself and something different is when you shift that energy within you that you then open yourself up to receiving a different energy.”
The hero, today
Donna was silenced by fear of consequences she never fully knew, and that fear kept her trapped until she found someone safe enough to tell the whole story to. When Donna learned to separate traumatic memories from the emotion attached to them through EMDR, the memories stopped replaying and she could finally start living instead of surviving. Donna discovered that the moment she spoke up about what was happening, the abuser lost their power, because their control depended on her silence. Donna deliberately chose to cut people out of her life who were keeping her down, even family and lifelong friends, because she needed to be around people who wanted to lift her up. Donna's suffering gave her the ability to help someone else see their problem from a different angle and find hope, which she names as one of the biggest gifts of what she's been through. Donna tells women in abusive situations now that there is help available, that they won't have to face danger alone, and that speaking up will break open the prison cell door.
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Donna was silenced by fear of consequences she never fully knew, and that fear kept her trapped until she found someone safe enough to tell the whole story to.
When Donna learned to separate traumatic memories from the emotion attached to them through EMDR, the memories stopped replaying and she could finally start living instead of surviving.
Donna discovered that the moment she spoke up about what was happening, the abuser lost their power, because their control depended on her silence.
Donna deliberately chose to cut people out of her life who were keeping her down, even family and lifelong friends, because she needed to be around people who wanted to lift her up.
00:00:00,000 A note before we begin. This conversation includes discussion of childhood abuse and trauma. Donna shares her story with great courage and some parts may be hard to hear. Please take care as you watch or listen and pause whenever you need to. If you're affected, support is available. You can call Lifeline on 13 11 14 and 1800RESPECT by calling 1800 737 732.
00:00:32,000 a constant where you're living in a constant level of fear you are you are um that it's fear of speaking up you know it's a fear of having a voice and saying something that is going to cause welcome back to Kintsugi Heroes helping people tell the stories they need to share so you can find the stories that you need to hear
00:01:09,000 Hello Donna and thank you for sharing your story on Kintsugi Heroes today. Donna, your story is quite harrowing or parts of your story are harrowing about your horrible childhood and parts of the story I imagine will be hard to talk about. So I just want to start by honouring you and honouring your courage for sharing the story with us today.
00:01:38,000 Thank you. Thanks, Natalie. It really is an honour to be here and to be able to share my story as well. Let's start at the very beginning. Let's start with your early childhood and your earliest memories of childhood.
00:01:57,000 So strange enough, I have memories from 18 months old, which is quite unusual for most people. You know, they struggle to remember their childhood. But for me, from, you know, pretty early age,
00:02:16,000 three onwards is really strong memories and that's because of the abuse that has, you know, made everything, made me aware of everything so much earlier than most people who just, you know, toddle along in life and just have the normal milestones and things to deal with. Yeah. Yeah.
00:02:43,000 You can remember it all. Yeah. Start from perhaps your earliest memory. So I suppose the key starting point for me was a memory at Christmastime and my mum was in hospital and Christmas Eve, you know, should have been excited about getting up and getting presents and already had that, my mum being in hospital and,
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This conversation includes living under constant fear, memories from three years old, learning to escape, learning to survive, the attacks kept happening, everywhere, the cage of silence and pregnant at fifteen, cast out.
00:03:13,000 you know, be missing from the family. But then that was also the first major memory I had of abuse by my father. So that was not a very good Christmas at all and was the beginning of, you know, regular series of sexual abuse. How old were you then? I was three. I was three at that time.
00:03:44,000 When I was 18 months, I remember just crawling on my hands and knees down at my great aunt's place and finding refuge in a laundry basket and hiding myself in under the laundry and going to sleep. And unbeknownst to me, everybody was frantically looking for me. But I just remember this feeling of needing to escape and just needing to find refuge. So...
00:04:11,000 That was an unusual memory to have, but it's made sense as I've gone on my journey of healing along the way. I've got memories of at preschool being picked up by taxis. My dad was a taxi driver as well. And being picked up by taxis, the preschool thinking I was being taken home, but I'm in fact being taken
00:04:42,000 to pedophiles places and, you know, allowed to be used as their play toy. I had a lot of healing around claustrophobia because I would get locked in chests and cupboards and you still can't pin me down because that fear of not being able to be free. So, you know, just being pinned and abused. There was a lot of trauma.
00:05:10,000 around that as well and it is like you wear this beacon on your head you know that pedophiles free be here this person's not gonna say anything they're they've got your secret so you find that wherever you go you get into situations where you get honed in on by these sort of pedophiles
00:05:36,000 And I remember when I was about 10, walking home, just been playing tennis with my friend and walking home and had not got up far past her house. And this car pulled up with five guys in it and they're trying to drag me in. And I just remember swinging for my life with the tennis racket and managing to get away and run back down to my friend's house and told her dad that these guys had just tried to grab me and
00:06:05,000 He went running out and the car went spinning around the corner and actually hit pedestrians and, yeah, he went down and told the police. So I was, you know, not involved with all that follow-up but...
00:06:20,000 It was like, wow, it's happened again, you know, when's this going to sort of stop, you know. So it was happening at home and also outside of your home. On the street. Yeah, on the street as well.
00:06:40,000 And then when I was 12, I used to regularly go down to Sydney and stay with my grandma for school holidays. And as my brothers got older, it was just sometimes me go down there because they had other camps on or something like that they were involved with. And I remember I was 12 and had gone down to Sydney and stayed with my grandma and
00:07:08,000 You know, she was getting on and probably getting a little bit. She ended up with dementia and I dare say, like, she had a little bit of onset and not understanding, you know, that I was so young and asking me to go on an errand to go catch a bus and go to the shop and get some items. And...
00:07:29,000 I misfollowed directions and ended up down at a dead end and there was workmen and works going on and I was like...
00:07:40,000 Sitting at this bus stop and I'm like, I don't think there's buses going to come here. And I could see these guys sort of staring at me. And by the time I realised I was in trouble, I was trapped. I was cornered. So as I tried to sort of slink past unnoticed, they held me captive for a couple of hours and just gang-raped me repeatedly.
00:08:06,000 So when they finally released me, 12, yeah, I was bleeding and, you know, in a lot of pain. And when they finally let me go, I was like, okay, so I have to still find out where I have to catch this bus and go and get these groceries and go back to grandma's, you know.
00:08:34,000 And it was interesting because, you know, I did that. I learnt just to soldier on and get done what needed to be done. And my grandma had no idea that I was gone so long. She didn't question anything. She was like, here, put my groceries away. And, yes, I was like. I did just being through. No idea at all. And, yeah.
00:09:04,000 It was like, okay, well, that happened, you know. I just have to get back together and just keep moving on because that's what you learn. Carry on. You know. Yeah, yeah. So again, it's just, you know, you've got that beacon and it just keeps flying at you and you're like,
00:09:28,000 when's this going to stop, you know? Like when does this never-ending loop stop happening with it? And so, yeah. And Donna, after that event at your grandmother's house, were you able to download and cry it out or was the mask always on?
00:09:59,000 You have to, like, let a certain amount out. So, you know, I just went and sat outside in the grass and had a little, yep. But you learn not to let yourself get into the state where you're heaving and you're, you know, you're inconsolable. You can't let yourself get out.
00:10:19,000 to that stage of release it's like a little bit of tear and then pull yourself back together and just let enough out that you can pull yourself back up that how you survive it you know because as soon as you become inconsolable then questions are asked and you know help is offered and you're like well I can't that in I can't
00:10:46,000 lets somebody into what's going on. It cascades from that early trauma
00:10:54,000 And where you're told, you know, secret, you can't tell anybody, there's consequences. So that's just inbuilt and it travels on every journey and every situation. Even if it's different people and you're a different age, it's still imprinted so heavily into you as part of these are consequences. And...
00:11:19,000 when it comes from what is the planet well the the consequences are you know um that you know you'll regret it that um you you'll be you'll be dead you know there's it's just severe consequences for betrayal as they see it it's betraying them and
00:11:44,000 Because you're growing up in a society to, you know, respect your parents and they've got the authority, you don't question it. You don't, you know, you don't have the courage to defy it.
00:11:58,000 It's not that you don't know that it shouldn't be that way. It's you don't have the courage to defy it because it's such a strong authority figure that's over the top of you. A constant, were you living in a constant level of fear? Yes.
00:12:18,000 You are. You are. But it's fear of speaking up, you know. It's a fear of having a voice and saying something that is going to cause consequences and, yeah, just you don't know in reality what they are. But, you know, you...
00:12:42,000 It's like when your parents say, you do as you're told or else. You never know what the or else is. It's just enough to have you going, okay, I can never do that. So it's sort of... Have you under control. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah, so as the... There was another time. Sorry? I was just going to say... There was another...
00:13:10,000 Don't worry, this will be cut out. Our little interruptions, speaking over each other, they'll be cut out. It doesn't matter. I was going to... So, editors, please cut this out. I was just going to prompt you to that other story if you want to share it about your friend betraying you in the caravan, if you want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I was just sort of going through chronologically, you know, with a...
00:13:38,000 So I suppose then my next thing is, you know, being pregnant at 15 and had a boyfriend who was five years older than me and...
00:13:49,000 You know, the first person who showed interest in me, of course, I grabbed hold of as thinking this is my escape, this is my safe person, this is the person who loves me. You know, and to an extent there was a range of that. But, you know, both of us way too young to even know what that really was about. So...
00:14:18,000 Amongst it all, you know, didn't have the talk about safe sex or anything like that. You know, parents knew that I had a boyfriend, you know, five years old. You know, there must have been suspicion that I was becoming sexually active as well. And so there was no talk about being on pills or safe sex or anything. So, of course, I fell pregnant at 15.
00:14:48,000 So my boyfriend and I had actually split up, but I said to him, look, you're going to have to come with me and tell my parents. And, of course, the reception to that was not very good. And it was like, well, you need to get married. And I went, well, we're not getting married. Well, then...
00:15:09,000 There's no place for you here. We're not going to deal with this. So a taxi was called and I was given $10 and told that in an hour a taxi was coming to get me and wherever $10 took me was where I was allowed to go basically. So I was like, right.
00:15:30,000 Well, I don't know where I'm going to go. So the only place I had to go was my ex-boyfriend's. So I rock up there, you know, and they were kind enough to take me in and let me work out what I wanted to do with the pregnancy as well, which was quite good. Massive decision. But, you know, I just went...
00:15:53,000 i am not in any position to be looking after a baby so of course at that time abortion was illegal in queensland as well so we had to go over the border in tweed heads my boyfriend's mum came down with me and supported me which was really nice
00:16:15,000 Unfortunately, at the clinic, there was a doctor on call that day that shouldn't have been in practice and actually was removed from practice after many complaints were made to him. So instead of having the experience of being under anaesthetic, we were given half a Valium
00:16:37,000 And that was supposed to be enough. The girl who went in first, the Valium knocked her out and she was okay. I was second in and I was wide awake to the world. So the procedure, you know, needed to have an injection to numb all the uterus. And, of course, that was rather painful. So I screamed and I was told to shut up. Oh, my gosh.
00:17:07,000 When the remains of the baby was extracted out, I was forced to look at what I had done. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. A lot of drama. A lot of drama. I don't know. Yeah. So anyway, we made it through that journey. And, of course, I had to leave from living with my
00:17:33,000 my ex-boyfriend and his parents that sort of had to come to an end so I left there and couch surfed for a while and then ran out of places to go so ended up back at home which was not ideal but you know it was at least a roof over my head and gave me space to you know to
00:17:59,000 by my feet and you know where i was headed now so i ended up ended up with a friend and i don't know how and i can't even really remember details about this friend anymore but we ended up at this party
00:18:21,000 I was 16, ended up at a party. And I didn't know at the time, but I was set up. I was set up by my friend. And she did it out of fear. This girl was, she was a real nutcase. She was a real bully. And her cousin apparently liked me and wanted to have sex with me. And so I had turned him down.
00:18:51,000 a way to get him what he wanted. So my friend set me up to go to this party and left me there. And then I wasn't allowed to leave. And the cousin, she had me at knife point while this guy, her cousin, just raped me repeatedly for...
00:19:15,000 two to three hours and then let me go. It was about 3.30, four o'clock in the morning and I had no means of transport at all. So I ran probably 10 kilometres and was headed to the police station and then just, you know,
00:19:40,000 when you're with the pedophiles and you see what people are in there, is judges, policemen, you know, people that should be your safe place. And I went, well, I can't go there. So I ended up on a train station with a purse full of Valium and I just went, can't do it anymore. Let's just swallow all of you and say goodbye.
00:20:08,000 Yeah. So I did that. And next thing I knew, I was in hospital. Apparently, a lady catching the first train found me and called an ambulance. I was dead on arrival at hospital. And they revived me. And
00:20:32,000 Then because of the fact that I had tried to take my life, they needed to get the police involved. So as soon as they said that the police were on their way, I went, I'm going to get out of here. So I quickly grabbed my clothes and bolted and I ended up hiding in the bushes.
00:21:01,000 I can't remember how I contacted my ex-boyfriend or whether he was also contacted to, you know, because he was the only person around to help me. I think the hospital must have contacted him to come and, you know, come to the hospital.
00:21:20,000 And so I grabbed my things and I hid in the bushes until he come and I jumped in the car and took off. And, of course, 16, I had no ID on me. So, yeah, they didn't get a name or anything from me and I just took off. And I was like, wow, this is where do I go? So I ended up...
00:21:51,000 working and you know making friends and just started drinking and went down the path of you know just being constantly alcohol in my system I could drink a lot before I sort of showed any signs of being drunk so
00:22:09,000 It all pretty much was a waste of money anyway, but it was that vice to keep you socialising and keeping you out of the house because, you know, I was still living at home at that stage. And then, funny enough, at the pub I met my first husband. I should have left him at the pub. I should never have jumped on board that crazy train, but I did. So he was...
00:22:37,000 It was funny because when I first met him I didn't particularly like him and when I left him I definitely didn't like him. So somewhere in between I convinced myself that, you know, this person would do. So, you know, you start just settling for whatever's put in front of you because you don't, you just don't see. I think it was better than...
00:23:05,000 Exactly. And it was, you know, you think it's exactly right. You think it's a step up from where you've been. Yeah. And to start with, it felt like it was, you know. There was just that normalcy to it. And I couldn't say that there was...
00:23:27,000 You know, it was a happy life, but there was moments of, you know, being happy and amongst it, I suppose. But it was just not being where I previously was, was the main thing. But little did I know that I was...
00:23:45,000 had fallen into the hands of a narcissist and an abuser, you know, and they gain your trust. And then once they feel that they've got you hook, line and sinker, then you have the abuse start. So he would, you know, just force himself on me. And, you know, people find it hard to believe that there's a thing called rape when you're in a consented relationship.
00:24:14,000 But, you know, there is ambitiousness, there is a forcefulness and, you know, when you don't want to be participating and you're being held and you're being hurt and abused, then that is being raped, you know.
00:24:34,000 So I would end up bleeding, bruises, you know, and it wasn't just rape. It would, you know, because I had a bit of fight in me, you know, I'd try and stand up for myself and I'd end up flung across the room and, yeah, smacked around.
00:24:54,000 And at that stage I just had no fear, you know, I'd be like giving it back and I'd just, yeah, end up hurt. He'd end up going off with his mate and I'd be left alone going, how am I going to escape this, you know. And stupidly I was engaged to be married to him, had started organising the wedding and
00:25:23,000 And that was when it started escalating, the abuse was escalating because he thought got a hook, line and sinker, you know. Fell pregnant at 21 to him and his reaction was to punch me in the stomach. That's how overjoyed he was. Oh, Donna. So I just went, well, you know what, if I was unsure that I didn't want to be here before this, I certainly am positive now that I do not want to be in this.
00:25:52,000 So back for another round of abortion, but this time it was legal. It was in Queensland. It was under, you know, the anaesthetic and it was right. That's good. I've made that one. So as I was...
00:26:12,000 Walking down the aisle, I knew that I was just playing a game of timing to get myself out. So people say to me, why did you go through with the wedding when you knew that you weren't going to go, you know, stay in the marriage? But when you're with someone who is so calculated and vicious and you're scared for your life
00:26:43,000 You have to plan your escape. You have to play a game and plan and work your strategy of escape. So you just have to play the game. So I knew walking down some time. So, you know, needless to say, the honeymoon was horrific. Didn't want to be there, didn't want to be touched. So that was the happiest of memories.
00:27:10,000 But I finally had enough money saved up and had the timing exact and I moved out, got myself a little townhouse and was working, you know, had my own job and I didn't realise. I'd made good friends with this lady at the same time but I didn't realise that he knew where I worked.
00:27:38,000 And I knew he didn't know where I lived. But he followed me home one day from work. And I'm unlocking my townhouse to go in. And next minute, I've got him behind me. And of course, he's not a very happy boy. So, you know, gold bracelet down the instant creator and Bipo Pancho. And I'm like, right, well, now my safe space has gone. Yes. What do I do now?
00:28:09,000 So my friend, she said, look, I've met someone and I'm moving to Mount Isa. Why don't you pack up your house and come with me? And I went, that sounds amazing. So that's what we did. We put our houses into storage, all our furniture into storage.
00:28:29,000 loaded up our cars and we followed each other up to Mount Iger on this journey. And unbeknownst to me, this guy that she'd met was working with my second husband, who I'd not yet met, and we were matchmates. But...
00:28:51,000 And I land there and this guy's there under the pretense of, you know, fixing up the reception on the TV or something like that. And, I mean, I'm on the run from my first husband. I'm not interested in a new relationship. You know, I still haven't unfolded from that relationship and fresh on the run, you know.
00:29:18,000 But he was a little bit caught by me and determined, so he started chasing me hard. And it was funny, just as the point where he gave up chasing me and gave me a little bit of breath, I thought, you know what? Maybe I should give this guy a chance.
00:29:39,000 And he was in the process of traveling around Australia. And he was living with his brother to save up more money to keep doing the rest of his journey. And he was ready to go in, you know, like a couple of months time. And he invited me to go with him. And I was like, holy hell, what do I do? What do I do? You know, and I went, you know what?
00:30:04,000 What's the worst that can happen? Nothing that I've been through would be worse than what could happen if I just take a chance. Best chance I took. He was amazing. Yeah. It was like, oh, my God, I've got this man who is genuine, he's loving, he's got no gene whatsoever within him that is a sexual predator. Yeah.
00:30:31,000 You know, he just nurtured me and he was my rock. You know, and I just don't appreciate so much what he was. And I'm like, I know there was times where I made things more difficult because of the fact that
00:30:57,000 I didn't realise that I hadn't really verbalised what had happened to me. You know, I hadn't really... I said to him, you know, I'd been abused by my dad, but he thought it was only a couple of times. In here, I was telling the story. Here, there was not much coming out, yeah. But, you know, he stood by me and just, yeah, just...
00:31:20,000 accepted me for the journey that i had to make um you know there was times where he pushed me when um he knew i needed a little encouragement um or a little bit of you know extra job but he was very patient with my journey as well and probably didn't see me as damaged yeah yeah so so you you married
00:31:50,000 We got married, yeah. I was terrified of telling him because, you know, the track record. And I told him and he was like, wow, you know, I'm going to be a dad. And it was...
00:32:06,000 totally different response, you know, and, you know, he wanted then with his upbringing that he wanted to be, you know, the man who then let's get married and, you know, show you that I'm committed, you know, and
00:32:23,000 So he had to get a bit of Dutch curry to ask me to marry him because he was so nervous. And I just went, no, I'm not going to marry you. You're not going to marry me just because I'm pregnant, you know. So he had some convincing to do that that's not what it was about. And he certainly proved that over the years, you know. We went on to have a second child and he was just the best dad. He was just the best husband and dad, yeah.
00:32:58,000 Yeah. So, you know, along that journey of having him, he allowed me to go on my healing journey. So, you know, at the age of 38, I finally had the courage to tell somebody my story in completion. So I saw this. You're finally in a safe place. Yeah.
00:33:27,000 Finally, yeah, where I can just go now, okay, I can have my breath. And, like, I had been doing healing, different modalities and different things all along the way. But this was the big moment where the true speaking up and healing started, you know. And it's funny, at the age of 38, I was still so tied in that fear.
00:33:58,000 of, you know, my father instilled in me of not being able to speak up and have a voice. And I couldn't understand why I had all these issues with my throat, you know, not being able to swallow and, you know, all of these things. And I understand now that was this gripping of, you know, fear of speaking up and having a voice. Yes.
00:34:23,000 So, you know, I went and had this, my first hypno session and it was mind blowing with what it opened up and what it allowed me to do and, you know, a safe space to be in under hypnosis.
00:34:43,000 to confront my dad and do lots of things in a safe space. So, you know, that was when I wrote a letter to my dad and went, you know, I'm not going to protect you anymore. This is your responsibility. You know, I'm not trapped anymore. And apparently when he read the letter, he threw up.
00:35:06,000 which is I've been told is the guilt you know it's all of that guilt that had been sitting there with him so that was that was so freeing it was it was hard to get to that point but once I did then that just cascaded a journey of quick
00:35:28,000 release and you know onto the next thing um you know then you have a have a rest and you have a reprieve and you have an outpour and then you build the strength and then you do the next bit and the next bit on the journey because you felt empowered in relation to into that the trauma with your father yeah
00:35:50,000 Yeah, exactly right. And, you know, just that support of this loving man all along the way was what kept me upright and kept me feeling safe as I went on the journey. Because sometimes you feel like you're losing your marbles all the way. And then at the age of 44...
00:36:16,000 We were gearing up, you know, for kids finishing school and going to uni and I went, right, well, I need to go see a psychologist and have some last sessions just to make sure that I'm stepping into this next phase of our life just being us, you know, and the opportunity to have, you know, intimacy without, you know, other people in the house and, you know, the interruptions and I just wanted to be
00:36:47,000 free and the best person I could be in the relationship and I finished those sessions and I come out the end and I went do you know what I finally feel like I can stand beside my husband as an equal and you know I just felt like I was I was finally on the other side and that lasted for about a month and then we found out
00:37:18,000 He had cancer. Pain in the hip. Wendy got it checked out. All of a sudden, he couldn't stand long enough to make a coffee. And the doctor said, well, we better do a scan. And he had this massive lump attached to his bladder. And the renal nerve was what was running across and causing the pain in his hip. And
00:37:46,000 So then he was in biopsy, six weeks in hospital on chemo. And unfortunately, the cancer that he had was very aggressive, rare in adults. And, you know, when they found it was 13 by 10 by 9. And we found out that that cancer, once it's larger than five centimetres in an adult, it's fatal. So we were then told that he was terminal cancer.
00:38:16,000 Yep, he had two weeks to live. Wow. Yeah. So then I lost him. Yeah. So then I had to heal from grieving, you know, massive grieving. It was so unexpected. Yeah.
00:38:40,000 Donna, for how many years were you together before he passed away? So we met when I was 21. So we were together 23 years. Yeah. Yeah. And he was 47. He was so young. So young. Yeah, so young. And, you know, just took...
00:39:06,000 the world by shock you know that yeah yeah so then there was grief yeah a new a new type of grief you know and I was sitting there in my journey of healing and I went I'm a great believer that you know we're
00:39:28,000 given set lessons each lifetime that we live. And I was like, you know, when I was up there ticking the box, somebody should have taken the pen off me because I went, well, I'll have the lot this time around. But I'm like, well, this life of mine up to that point had been all about loss, loss of childhood, loss of
00:39:59,000 Yeah. And then, you know, loss of love. It was, yeah, it was some hard lessons, some hard lessons. Yeah. But you know what? I've learned so much along the way, behaviours and, you know, about myself and how the healing process, you know,
00:40:27,000 can sometimes be a real mind game as well. What do you mean by that? To me, a mind game. So, you know, like I spent a lot of time in my trauma just reliving the events, like a never-ending movie reel as soon as I closed my eyes, just going in and in and in the same thing. I was never in the why is this happening to me. I figured that out.
00:40:56,000 you know, at the age of three that this, and I think it was because it happened to me so young and you don't understand what it's like to, you know, to blame somebody or at that young age and it's just like, well, this is just happening to me. There's, you know, I'm not doing anything that's causing this except for being alone. So, yeah, it was...
00:41:26,000 But people, you know, they do get into that blame game. Self-blame. Self-blame. You definitely, your self-worth gets battered massively. And because of that control that these people have over you and you then go, well, why have I given them that control? How can I stop that from happening?
00:41:56,000 And it all plays in your mind. So you end up so caught up in your mind that you become paralysed because you just keep trauma. So while you're healing, recovering from all that past trauma, how did you master your mind? I've been lucky in the sense that...
00:42:26,000 I'm a very spiritual person and I've since got accreditation as a psychic medium. So, you know, going along that line of healings and learnings, it really opens you up to how to centre yourself, how to realign.
00:42:49,000 And it gives you a new power. It gives you, you're fed into the fact that your self is beautiful and you've got this power within you and focus and you can redirect your thoughts and your energy and
00:43:08,000 And it was interesting that it was the point where I made the decision to break free of the cycle that I then ended up with my beautiful husband as my reward or as that person who was there waiting for me. It was like his timing of being there was exactly when I was ready to
00:43:38,000 to escape the energy that I was in and fought for it. You know, I fought for me. So I think, you know, when you get to that point of fighting for yourself and something different is when you shift that energy within you that you then open yourself up to receiving a different energy.
00:44:02,000 And I didn't understand it at the time. It was a hindsight moment, you know, of further down the track and further learnings. Yeah, along the way. Commitment to yourself to be well and end those patterns of abuse. Yeah. Learn to...
00:44:25,000 Other people, you can't control them. They're on their own journeys, the same as you're on yours.
00:44:33,000 So, you know, people that you think they should have been there to help me or didn't somebody see this, you know, it's like, well, what were you projecting or what is going on for them that they were focusing on what they needed for them to survive? You know, it doesn't have to be something as traumatic as what I went through. It's traumatic to them.
00:45:02,000 You learn to look at what's going on for people and go, okay, that person's really pissed off and they're an angry person, but why are they like that? What's going on for them that's causing them to be that way? And, you know, there's a lot of time abusers have been abused themselves and so it's a taught, you know, taught trait, taught behaviour and
00:45:30,000 Some of it's caused by them lashing out and not knowing how to deal with everything that they've endured or they've seen. They don't know how to help somebody else. So there's many different things around it. So I think you've just got to take control of you in your healing journey. And look after you, look after yourself.
00:45:57,000 Yeah, yeah. And understanding that everyone has their own individual journeys and you can't control them, but you can be in control of your life. Exactly. And take care of you the best way you can. Yeah, yeah. Donna, what other tools have you used to recover? You have mentioned earlier seeing a psychologist, seeing a, was it a hypnotist? Yeah.
00:46:24,000 What other tools have you used? Look, there has been, yeah, the hypnotherapy, as I said, was the, you know, was a big one. Kinesiology, even just having, you know, readings from different people. Yeah.
00:46:42,000 Once I got through to a certain stage, it was actually my daughter, through her uni and studies, she said, Mum, I think that you would benefit from EMDR. And I found a psychologist that dealt with it and what it does is it
00:47:07,000 I was talking before about the memories that are so vivid and playing like movie reels and it's just, you're just trapped in it. Apparently when you've been through trauma, these memories are separate to the emotion. They don't connect. And you do that out of a matter of survival and the, I suppose that, you know, impact of the trauma just displaces everything. Um,
00:47:32,000 And while you're sitting there watching a set of fingers going in a pattern in front of your eyes, the memory and the emotion connect. And that then allows it to be archived and put in your memory library on a shelf. And you can still see.
00:47:56,000 you know, you still have the memory but you don't have that emotion attached to it. So when I'm sitting talking about something, it's not in the trauma of what was happening at the time, that has gone. And that was life-changing. It was life-changing because it gave me that freedom then to just eventually the memories just start fading and you can bring to the fore.
00:48:26,000 better memories you know memories of what's happening now and really start living and enjoying emotion that are happy emotions because when you're in trauma trying to pull up that happiness and that you feel like a fraud it's so much energy
00:48:46,000 to pull up from when you're so down depressed that vibrates so low that energy so it frees you and it allows you to be in a neutral and then you can it's not a very high road to get to something happier and lighter you know you can start feeling wonder and awe in a in life um and hope you know um
00:49:11,000 which is a major emotion for moving forward, having hope and, yeah, belief. Donna, at what point did you feel safe enough to share your story with your close friends? Well, probably only about eight years ago, to be honest. Yeah. And how did they react? How did your close friends react?
00:49:39,000 Well, they were just so, you know, empathetic to me. And, you know, I reconnected with my school friends and they had no idea what I went through and what was going on for me. There was friends that I had that I knew just because I was in that energy and space. I didn't know details, but I knew something was going on for them as well. And
00:50:10,000 It's so liberating for my friends to know that...
00:50:17,000 Despite all of that, you know, I've made it to the other side and to me I'm no different to the person I was at school because that was the me. There was the me that went to school, had the friends and had, you know, sports and everything and then there was me that endured the horrific life and we were separate.
00:50:41,000 And I since found out when I was doing this EMDR, my psychologist had to actually bring the two parts of me in a session back together because I had actually separated as that survival. So I couldn't get out of that survivor mode.
00:51:03,000 until i felt like i was didn't have that survival person that person who needed to survive as part of me anymore so that was a really interesting with that so and it was sorry that was a combination of sounds like go on sorry sorry sorry editors sorry editors um it's
00:51:30,000 going to sort of sum up and I was going to ask you about another thing you told me previously about weeding the garden so I'll ask you about weeding the garden as another tool that you use in your recovery but I can ask you again because this is messy so Donna I recall when we previously spoken that another way that you sorry sorry editors
00:52:01,000 Donna, in a previous conversation, you mentioned to me another technique that you used in your healing journey, and that was weeding the garden. Can you tell us what you mean by weeding your garden and how that helped you? It's real on what's dragging you down, I suppose, and you start really having a look at who you want.
00:52:22,000 to be around you and be part of your life. And there's people that are there that are either attracted to your energy or they're there for a reason. You know, you have these people that, like, poke the bear and then disappear, or those people that come in and they wrong you in some way and teach you a lesson and disappear. But when you...
00:52:47,000 are trying to lift yourself up to a different energy. You need to shift those people that are keeping you down and try, you know, those people that are in their own misery. And as much as we don't want people to be there, they're not our responsibility. So you might have to say, I need to keep you at a distance or I just need to cut you from my life. And I've done some really hard
00:53:15,000 cutting people from my life. And some people view me as very harsh for doing that. But I do it because I need to close that chapter. I need to have those positive people that want to uplift and drive ahead with me.
00:53:35,000 It doesn't mean that I still can't help somebody, but I don't stay attached to them anymore. And you sometimes do have to just close those doors, you know, family members, lifelong friends, whoever they may be. And some people say, oh, but their family, they, you know, I see them here and see them there.
00:53:56,000 But it's energetically how you let them attach to you. So you might have somebody who you're still having to deal with at those family gatherings and that, but you just don't let them attach to you. You don't let them affect you and pull you down. Right.
00:54:14,000 That's you weeding the garden, you know, the flowers that you want to grow there. You know, you don't need the manure to make them grow. You just don't. Yes. Yes. Donna, earlier you did touch on some of the wisdom that you've gained along the journey. What are some other gifts that you see have come from your experience? I think it's just...
00:54:43,000 the empathy, you know, towards people and that being able to look at things with a different perspective. And I can easily help somebody who's caught up in a problem just to be able to look outside of themselves and see something from a different point of view. Just change their thinking on something and see that there's hope. And you can see them change in front of your eyes.
00:55:12,000 you can see their energy shift and you can see their shoulders lift and their eyes get a little bit of, you know, spark of hope and, you know, they feel like they've got direction to go instead of just feeling a little bit lost. So I think for me that has been one of the biggest gifts of all my suffering. Yeah.
00:55:39,000 Having to be able to offer that. What advice would you give other women who are victims of abuse and perhaps in that situation right now? Look, I think the key is to speak up, is to just let somebody know what's happening to you and...
00:56:08,000 However, the help cascades from there. As soon as you speak up, you disempower the person who is, you know, abusing you and threatening you because they lose that power. There's no threat that they will carry forward with that. When you have spoken up, it's known that
00:56:36,000 You've got all these people now coming in and you'll find that people actually did have a sense of what was going on when you speak up. But there's definitely so much help out there that you're not going to be alone and you're not going to have to face and go into dangerous situations at all if you don't need to. Somebody can go in for you. But they will just lose their power.
00:57:07,000 Your silence is what gives them the power. Have a voice, speak up, yep, and it'll just break that prison cell door wide open. Okay, thank you. And Donna, what does your life look like now? What is life like for you now? Well, for me it's far more peaceful and I get a sense of freedom
00:57:36,000 freedom to live the life that i want you know the freedom to just have in my life who i who i want
00:57:48,000 Freedom from the past, you know, just knowing that is now in the past and becoming more and more a distant memory. The past that I remember are, you know, those happy moments in my life and everybody has those moments. They just get suffocated. So for me now it's just being able to just have freedom to live and be happy. Yeah.
00:58:16,000 And are you working full-time? So I do work full-time. My hope and what I'd love to do is grow a business plan that I have for healing, you know, whether that intuitive.
00:58:36,000 with cards or without cards, I can connect to somebody and really tune into them. And, you know, it's funny, my daughter's a psychologist and she said, you know, we do similar things just in different ways. And I can go in intuitively and fast track you on your healing journey because, you know, I tune into your spirit guides that know you and they're screaming,
00:59:06,000 tell her this, tell her this will help. And they give me tools to pass on to you that are useful for you to start healing yourself and progressing forward. And when I get into that energy, my heart just lifts and I just feel a real sense of positive purpose.
00:59:28,000 So that's my happy zone. That's my happy place. So I would love to transition. At the moment I work in, you know, bookkeeping and payroll and, you know, that used to be my passion but it's not anymore. So that is what I hope for myself is to grow this business and, yeah, really help others. Yeah. Yeah.
00:59:54,000 Yeah, thank you, Donna. Donna, one final message. What is one key message that you'd like the audience to keep after the podcast is finished? Just I don't know if this gives you courage, helps you find a voice, inspires you to just want better for yourself, you know,
01:00:22,000 Just draw on my strength and find your own and just know that you're not alone on this journey. Even though it's only you that can do the work, you're not alone. There's many places of hope.
01:00:38,000 different thing keep your eyes open for what pops up in front of you what your friends might be suggesting and you know just really honestly look past the fear and see what resonates with you to step up and have a go at because there's not just one answer one thing might get you to a certain place
01:01:00,000 and then it'll be a different thing that takes you to the next place. So just keep moving forward, be kind to yourself, and, yeah, you'll get there. You'll get there. There's light at the end of all of this.
01:01:16,000 Yeah, wonderful. Donna, thank you so much for sharing your story. I know parts of that were very hard to share but I really appreciate it and I really hope that the women who need to hear this will hear this. Thanks again, Donna. Thank you so much, Natalie.