The hall starts breathing again
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 04:54
Yes.
John Milham (Host) · 04:55
Healing, if you were.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 04:56
Yeah, absolutely. Um, I still question a lot of things, you know, but my, my mind frame and especially the last accident, well, the first accident took me 6 years to get back on my move forward. Um, but then when the second accident happened, I was non-weight bearing for 4 months. I had to learn to walk again. It was— it really, it took a toll mentally. I was, I was knocked down and I really didn't know whether I had the strength to get back up again. So I started thinking, you know, I can't do this, this— I can't feel sorry for myself. So I refocused and I focused on people that were either like me needed a hand up. Uh, so I started pushing in areas where I thought if I help them, it's going to help me as well. So that's what I did. I started putting things in place and really pushing out there and interacting with people and finding how, how they were. And it made me feel as though I had a purpose, and it was it was hard going. It, um, and still to this day, especially when my leg gives me heck, you know, I, I think, wow, can I keep doing this? But you have it. Oh, don't be such a sook. Off you go. You can, you know, um, yeah. So it was all about me helping others helped myself to get my mind and physical body back on track.
John Milham (Host) · 06:29
Absolutely. Uh, I understand that. But I also see interesting your journey and your involvement in helping the community post floods, which we'll get to in a minute, but almost a, you know, you've gone through your own journey to sort of prep for that same healing journey that the community's gone through. Does that?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 06:51
Yeah.
John Milham (Host) · 06:52
Does that make sense?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 06:53
It does. It does make sense. Um, my accident and the way I approached my self-healing I feel has the whole community collectively has had to do that. I mean, a lot, every, a lot of people were knocked down and still are knocked down. Um, so it's a case of trying to pull them back up and, you know, there's not much I can do to get their houses fixed or anything, but I can certainly make sure that their mind and themselves are in a happier place, a place where they can escape to, where they don't have to think about all the mess that they've gotta clean up and still cleaning up and will be cleaning up for quite a while. So yeah, collectively the community was knocked to its knees and gradually, you know, starting to pick up again.
John Milham (Host) · 07:45
Mm-hmm.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 07:46
So it is, it's a collective healing pod.
John Milham (Host) · 07:49
Yeah. And through connection, right? So building, you know, you decided to to reach out for your wellbeing and, and, and as a result, receive as well as gave, right? That's similar to what's happening with, with the community. Renewed focus, connection, feelings.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 08:07
Yeah, that's right. I can remember the, the first Christmas after the flood, we're all in, still in a big mess.
John Milham (Host) · 08:15
Yeah.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 08:16
And, uh, the BRCA, which is a Broke Residents Community Association, decided let's put on a community Christmas. So we called it Christmas with the Neighbours. And wow, what an event. It, it just brought everybody together. There were people that were not going to have Christmas quite like they used to, but it turned out to be an incredible event. And then I, a, a dear friend of mine and I went, well, you know what? Both of us are out of our houses. You know, we're, our, our houses were wrecked. We, you know, and we was, you know, living at my son's house then, and we thought, you know what, let's put Christmas lunch on at the hall for the people who won't be doing Christmas. So we did, and it was amazing. We had, um, sponsorship, we had a local, uh, restaurant chef put on beautiful parts of the meal, and I think we had— I think it was close to 40 people had Christmas lunch in the hall and it was beautiful. So these were, we wanted to reach out and try and make things as normal as possible in a very not normal situation.
John Milham (Host) · 09:28
That, uh, that's an amazing idea. And you mentioned not normal and the damage to your own place as well as the community. Can I ask, you know, can I, you give us a, a description of what your flood experience was.
The water comes up fast
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 09:43
So leading up to the 6th of July and, you know, well, the 5th of July was like any other rainy day. We decided to go to town because there was nothing else to do. So it was my son and I and we went and I don't know, shopped, done something, and we thought, okay, better go home. It's looking a bit wet. Er, and we get to Broke and we thought, well, let's go down to all the access roads into Broken. Let's check how things are going. And by that stage, the water had come up on the Wallumbi Road like normal. Every time we had some kind of flood, that flooded there. It was nothing out of the ordinary. It was high, but it was, it was okay. We thought, yeah, it'll be fine. We went over to the, over the Milbradale Bridge, went, yep, it's about where it's normally at. And it sort of stabilizes and we checked everything and we came back and, uh, then I think, oh, we just did a drive around and to make sure everybody was all right and went down on the common to see that people, if anyone was camping, get them out, move maybe. Anyway, we were back going back towards the fire shed and next minute, um, I think it might've been my daughter-in-law who had just been told to come and find me. To get the keys to the hall and unlock the hall. Broke is being evacuated. Well, wow. That was it. You know, it went, I think that was around about quarter past 5, if I remember rightly. I did, I went to the hall. I had to go home and get the keys, and for some reason I grabbed my laptop, some few things in a bag, and left. Run into my husband and I said, get back to the house, start putting things up. And I did. I went to the hall, I turned on the heaters, I turned on the urn, and people started to turn up. At about 20 to 6, I got an SES message to say evacuate Broke now. Too late. The road, every road, it literally went from yes, the water was under the bridge to yes, it's over the bridge and you're not going anywhere.
John Milham (Host) · 11:54
Wow.
The hall becomes a shelter
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 11:55
So then all these people started to come in and it wasn't too long after that that the power and the water went off. Mm-hmm. So we were all in the dark, but, uh, we had enough hot water in the urn to still have warm Milo at midnight. Blech. Wow. Um, so, and then we had, we had two homeless guys come into the hall and they were a blessing, the pair of them.
John Milham (Host) · 12:20
One.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 12:21
Helped me look after and entertain any children with the preschool stuff, pencils, books, Play-Doh, you name it. So he entertained all of them and got drinks, warm drinks for people. And the other fellow had a bank of lights and a battery that he set up so that we could see enough so that we didn't trip over anyone.
John Milham (Host) · 12:44
Yeah. Yeah.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 12:45
He, he set it up so that people could charge their phone, recharge their phones to 50% so that everybody got a fair amount of reception on their phone, which was great. And then the night just got continually freezing cold. It was terrible. Then we had to— we got a lady in who was incredibly sick and we were going to have her medevacked out by helicopter. But at midnight that was canceled because the weather was appalling.
John Milham (Host) · 13:18
Yeah.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 13:19
And, um, that didn't happen. But then I got a frantic phone call from a neighbor saying that, can someone come and get them? They were sitting on their kitchen table and they thought they would be all right, but they weren't. They have water all through the house. So the fire brigade had to go and get them and bring them to the hall. So yeah, that was a crazy night. Um, never seen anything like it. And here the corrugated iron or clip, uh, Colorbond fences breaking and ripping tin from the force of the water.
Water under the hall
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 14:09
Right. Yep. There was water under the hall. I actually used the water at the back steps to indicate how high the water came. And then as I watched it, this is the next morning, I knew when it was starting to recede and that was around about 9 o'clock. It started to drop it. I think it dropped about 3 centimeters and then it stayed that way for a while.
John Milham (Host) · 14:32
Yeah.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 14:33
And then it started to drop again. So yeah, it was definitely water under the hall.
John Milham (Host) · 14:37
My goodness. So that must have been incredibly unsettling for everyone trying to, you know, evacuate and then not even sure the safe place was safe.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 14:46
Well, exactly. We, it was all a case of we're just gonna have to watch this and take it as it comes because it was all new there. I don't think there was anyone in— well, there was no one in that hall, but I'm not sure that there was anyone even living in Broke that had ever experienced water in the village. It was 1949 was when the last big flood actually inundated the village. And the queer thing is, right over from the church, uh, right over from the hall are two churches, and between those two churches is a, a local resident, his house and cattle yards and everything. And when the water breached the road into the village, it actually went around both churches and that house in the middle, didn't touch them one little bit, filled up the paddock behind the churches, flooded the hall, and then the rest of the village. So the churches and that little house was an island. It was really weird. Um, none of us knew what to expect, and houses that you would've thought would've flooded for sure, didn't. And then others did. It's very strange. And then how, like our house, it flooded and my friend's house down the road didn't flood but had such serious pier damage that it's, it's ruined as well. So it, it was very hit and miss as to where the damage and the worst damage actually happened, or just minor damage. But you know, that's something I always say though, the minor damage and the major damage cause the same mental damage to everybody.
Minor damage, same heartbreak
John Milham (Host) · 16:29
Oh yeah. Same level of dislocation and absolutely distress. Yeah. It's a good point that, um, you know, you, you sort of talk about damage to your place, but you were severely impacted on a personal level. How did you go with, um, getting stuff up and, and managing your spa?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 16:48
Oh well, um, I, I sent Claude back, uh, twice, and I— he came back and he said, I've done all that. And I said, for goodness sake, don't put the dog in the crate. Every now and then I thought about, you know, I hope she's up on the table and, you know, wherever she is and safe. And I can remember walking around talking to everybody in the hall, and some people were saying, oh, I don't know what to think. And it still never prompted me to think that my house would be impacted. But about 2 o'clock in the morning from a neighbor, and it was flooded, all right. It was, but it still didn't really sink in until the next morning. And then he come up and got me in his big ute, and I waded knee-deep into the house, into the yard, way up my you know, just above my ankle. And you wouldn't think that amount of water could cause so much damage, but it did.
John Milham (Host) · 17:46
Wow. So, you know, what, what was, um, happening? You know, how did you sort of deal with that? You were running around looking after the community and suddenly you realize, you know, you are part of the impact.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 17:58
Yes. Yeah. I, I thought, well, there's no— being obsessed with what I can't control it. It wouldn't—
John Milham (Host) · 18:08
it—
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 18:08
I, I could get upset. I could, you know, tear my hair out. I could— every— all of us were in the same boat. We, we just— I just had to concentrate on making sure everyone was safe and do what I had to do. So it— yeah. And, and even then when I did see it, it was, oh, okay. Um, it didn't compute. It did not sink in. And to this day, I still, it's surreal. It happened, but it happened to someone else. It couldn't possibly be me. And, um, flood is terrible. And I can remember saying, I was talking to the fire captain, poor girl, she'd only just taken fire captain that week.
Compartmentalizing everything
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 20:02
I think I'm incredibly strong, probably too strong because I think people can be too strong. I've had to put up walls because there are times, you know, I've had to do things that I've probably not felt like doing. You know, like, there for a period of time, I had my phone constantly stuck to my ear. If I wasn't dealing with related companies to the insurance, I was dealing with community issues. So, um, I mean, I didn't go to work for probably, I don't know, and then even then, I had to distance myself from what was happening in Broke and my home and everything so that I could concentrate on work. Involves helping people and they have problems. And I, I had to be careful because even though some of them knew what I was going through, I had to be mindful that my problems were not their problems and I had to keep it from them so that I could work with and deal with them and respect were paramount. Whilever I had my hat for work on, that's what I had to think about. So I had to learn to compartmentalize my entire life. You know, family, broke, commitments, work, everything had its little hat. Wow.
John Milham (Host) · 21:33
What about physically, right? So did you say goodbye to aspects of your life? You'd been there in that cottage for 40 years.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 21:41
Yeah. Well, it's still, it's very much ongoing. When I walked into the house and seen what a heck of a mess it was, I mean, I, I've all the fun, absolutely everything. And then when I found photos that were just a mess, but my neighbor next door, he's a clever— don't move them or anything. Just give me your photos. And I didn't lose one of those photos. But months and months down the track, I had other photos that I had stored in a box, red and, and whatever, and I lost the lot. And they were very special photos. You wouldn't think a photo, you know, heartbreaking, but they are. These are photos that, of an event that I don't think I can get copies of these photos. I'm I don't know, I don't even know how to find the people who took the photos to get copies. So it's silly things like that, and it's really not silly because it's a personal thing. Other people might not understand that. They'll say, oh, it's just, it's just things. It's then they don't matter. They don't matter, I suppose, because lives weren't lost and, you know, material things really don't matter. But sometimes those material things have a terrible habit of jumping up and, you know, smack anyone when you least expect it. But, uh, I, I've lost everything up in cupboards and, and they're all safe and everything, but anything that was low down, and I've gotta start all again, you know. Um, but we've gotta get a house built first before I can go and get any.
What she misses most
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 25:13
Yeah. I think control and autonomy in my home.
John Milham (Host) · 25:20
Mm-hmm.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 25:21
You know, my surroundings. I have no surroundings except boxes and mess and— because I'm a big cook. I love cooking. And it's nothing for me to put on a big meal and invite— and I can't because my home's full of—
John Milham (Host) · 25:39
Invite 40 people for Christmas. Yeah. Yes.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 25:42
Um, yeah, I miss my home. I miss the surround your home.
John Milham (Host) · 25:48
Yeah. Wow. And of course your personal reaction to that, which is very difficult, you know, thank you for sharing that moment with us, but your personal reaction was to dig into the community and, and because other people were experiencing what you were experiencing. So tell us a bit about what you think the community went through?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 26:09
Oh, you know, like grown men crying, you know, and ladies just— you know, I'd get up to the hall and I'd be out half past 5 walking across the road. You'd see people starting to come in and they're covered in mud. They were like wandering around like lost souls, really. And then you'd see the anger boil up. And, you know, we had some services and people that come on board, big businesses, and Ngarlindja Mission Centre in the hall, and people had come in wondering what to do next, you know, where do we go from here. So it may fall into place, but it was so hard seeing people just wandering around, really not knowing what to do. We had many, many people start picking up those pieces and guiding people into the right direction and to be there to, to, you know, the old someone to suddenly burst into tears, you know, and, um, or anger or yell. Every single one of those, uh, emotions were very much justified. But it was a real tennis match. You didn't know which thing to follow because every moment of every day was just really hard to see. Normally very stand-up, strong people belted around. It was, yeah, it was hard. And then, you know, you'd see people start picking up because, you know, they, they, they got what they You know, the army boys come in and bulgukkole and oh gosh, there was trucks of stuff being moved out. It's all there. And when people started to see action, especially around their own personal space, it made them feel a bit on the level of damage and, and impact as to how people reacted. And here we are still trying to pick up pieces. That's, that's very hard to take. It's very hard to sit.
What actually worked
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 28:40
But, uh, yeah.
John Milham (Host) · 28:41
What do you think worked best?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 28:43
I think the very fact what worked best. Community, on a community level, you know, we really tried to keep everybody in the loop as best we could. Some people reached out for that, and then there was others— there was all manner of levels of help. Others wanted to help, um, but it worked. It worked where each helped the other. Some people didn't want so much help, others needed help that couldn't be provided immediately, but everybody tried their hardest to help wherever they could. And I think that community was very, very— it was very important for the overall mental health. Um, media was great. There was a couple that I thought were absolutely brilliant, and they step up every now and then.
John Milham (Host) · 29:48
Sorry, in what way did they help? You know, how did you feel that that was an important element?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 29:55
Well, they put the story, you know, they— and these were a couple, couple didn't quite get us right, but you know, that's the story. That's the way it is, you know. Never let the truth stand in the way of a good story, if you know what I mean. But anyway, really amazing journalists that— they were great. They, they helped in many, many ways, just simply putting the word out there. And, um, there was a couple of local— they never stopped being in contact with us, and they put the word out if we needed, we needed anything. There was It was there, it was, it was done. Um, I don't— it did get, um, it's like, oh no, I don't want to talk again. I really don't want to go through this again and the same old questions. And, you know, it, it became tiring at times, but that I think depended on the day as to what we'd already experienced that day. So sometimes it's like, no, that's— I'm done. No, but overall I think it was a positive, positive experience. And without them, it would have been well and truly not noticed. Um, as it was, a dear friend of ours' son lives in Cessnock. Oh, I don't know, 14 months or so, it was only this year, he got in touch with us to ask a question. And I'll get on to it as quickly as I can. Um, but with— I'm still dealing with our house issue, and I'll probably forget, but I won't forget for long, I promise. And he said, well, what's the matter with your house? And I said, it got flooded. And he goes, what? I said, July 2022, big flood broke. And he goes, oh my God, I didn't know. Sesnok, 24 kilometers away. I couldn't believe it. I had to have a chuckle about that. Because that's almost, yeah. But anyway, it, I mean, some people don't turn the news on. It's understandable. I actually don't want, yeah.
The flood made it better
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 35:10
Oh, it's got better. It's got better. Whereas there was before, it was, do you know, you know, someone needs a bit of a hand. There was always that help and concern and mateship. Now it's entwined into us. It's even more, it's made it even more noticeable. Actually, one of the media people said to me, it was only a week or so after the flood, she said, so do you think you'll move? Do you think you, you don't want to be here anymore? And I was, I couldn't believe, I said, what? No, no way. This is my home. I'm staying. I'm not going anywhere. It's broke, but we can fix it. I'm— it's broke, as in the broke village, but we can fix it. Not— yeah, I didn't know I said that until it went everywhere, all across the country.
John Milham (Host) · 36:06
So you created a, a meme.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 36:09
I didn't do that, but you know, when I think about it, it's absolutely true. And we, we are fixing it. Yeah, absolutely.
John Milham (Host) · 36:16
And in the spirit of fixing it, do you think Broke has changed? And if so, how do you feel about that?
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 36:24
I look, it was always a quiet, lovely, private, whatever you wanted it to be, village.
John Milham (Host) · 36:32
Hmm.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 36:33
But I do believe it's grown. Um, and look, places grow. It doesn't matter where you, it, you know, people move in, move out. Business goes. But I think Broke has grown in a very positive way. It's owned by locals and, and non-locals, but it's a business family. Everyone supports everybody else, and there's no— I never see, or very rarely see, negative anything. If someone says, oh, we're doing this, half the broke people go and support it because it means a lot to support one another. So be it a business or whatever.
Friendships forged in mud
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 44:19
The thing, the The best thing for me personally is I have gained friendships that are so strong. And actually, we're a group of ladies that would rock up to the hall covered in mud, freezing cold, trying to feed people in their businesses, like a little, you know, like B&Bs and stuff, all manner of things. And we just gravitated towards one another. I didn't know any of them, not personally, not one of them.
John Milham (Host) · 44:54
Wow.
Evelyn Hardy (Guest) · 44:54
And now we try very hard to catch up every month or every 2 months, and we get together and we have— we just, you know, we talk about it, we support one another, we help one another. We're there. We're sort of like our own counselors, group counseling. The best thing I got was absolute undying friendship, beautiful deep friendship. And from that, again, the, the ones that, that helped, I helped, we helped each other. The hall was the recovery center. Develop friendships there and, and contact and I feel I am much— I, I don't— I would never— I could never initiate a conversation. I couldn't talking like this. My self-esteem was— that's it. Now I might go, oh, do I really have to? I'll be fine. I'll, I'll get in there. I never, I never spoke to— I, I wouldn't even pick up a phone. So the best thing is made me a very— I just dust off and I'll, I'll just keep going. I, I work because at the end of the day, I'm a, a results person. I need to see results. So if I can work towards doing that, that's, that's the end game for me. I see a job completed and I just feel so good about the best results from that. And I'm pretty sure groups of people seeing a job well done or their own personal jobs, whatever they're facing in their life, has got to be the grandest of feelings. So that's got to be a plus, you know, that the best thing that's come out of all this have moved on and they are putting their best foot forward now. And it's some people, though, a real healthy outlook. Some, some are still working towards that, but I have every faith that they can achieve, you know, their best moving forward place.
John Milham (Host) · 47:13
Well, that's amazing. Um, in some ways, like, at the core of the response to the village was you and, and, um, some people around you.