Juliette Wells
An artist's love for animals became the foundation for a family to teach the world about acceptance across difference.
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Juliette Wells grew up on the edge of Karingai Chase National Park in New South Wales, climbing trees and collecting cicadas, bringing home strays since kindergarten. She became a children's entertainer and clown before a breakup and her father's death shifted her toward art. Making resin work taught her something crucial: trying to force control breaks everything. The same lesson applies to animals and to teaching. She discovered that creating a calm, loving, free environment with humour gets far more from both.
During lockdown, Juliette and her partner Rhys found an abandoned fledgling magpie at an off-leash dog park where 40 different dog breeds came daily. They named him Molly. Peggy, their Staffordshire Bull Terrier, initially ran from the tiny bird. Then something shifted. Peggy had a phantom pregnancy and began producing milk, nurturing Molly as her own. Peggy's daughter Ruby, who heard Molly singing while still in the womb, learned gentleness from her mother's example. Two species people fear or misunderstand found in each other exactly what the world needed to see: love and acceptance across difference.
On March 1st of the previous year, Juliette dropped Molly at the department with no certainty he would return. Peggy fell into depression. Media camped at their door. The Premier of Queensland stepped in. The crisis brought Juliette and Rhys closer. Two hundred thousand signatures on petitions showed her that animals touch people's lives at a depth most things cannot reach. Even after Molly came home, Juliette was scared to go outside, unsure if people wanted to congratulate or confront them. A widow in her late seventies, grieving her husband, hid under her covers during thunderstorms watching Peggy and Molly videos to calm herself. Juliette went from struggling to film herself as an artist to standing at press conferences without fear. She is a totally different person now.
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“Animals are quiet healers. They speak in a language which is deeper than words. They're always there for you, and they remind you that you're never alone. There's always sun behind that cloud. There's always better days.”
“A miracle happened. She actually had a phantom pregnancy and she started to produce milk for this little bird and she started to nurture this little bird thinking that it was one of her own.”
“I used to struggle because I wanted to put some of my art online and I'd struggle to even do a live video. Fast forward to today, it's almost like there's nothing that we can't handle, standing in front of a press conference of all these cameras.”
The hero, today
Animals are quiet healers who speak in a language deeper than words, and they remind you that you're never alone, even in the toughest times. If you try to control animals or people with harshness, you won't get anywhere with them, but if you create a calm, loving, free environment with humor, you get so much more. Peggy and Molly's friendship touched so many people because they embody love, kindness, peace, and acceptance between two species that most people fear or misunderstand. The way Juliette tells and photographs the animals' story taps into people's emotions in a way words alone cannot, and that's why the videos reached people grieving, scared, and alone. Animals live in the moment without caring about being rich or poor or having a bad hair day, and they show you love regardless, which is a life lesson humans need to learn.
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Animals are quiet healers who speak in a language deeper than words, and they remind you that you're never alone, even in the toughest times.
If you try to control animals or people with harshness, you won't get anywhere with them, but if you create a calm, loving, free environment with humor, you get so much more.
Peggy and Molly's friendship touched so many people because they embody love, kindness, peace, and acceptance between two species that most people fear or misunderstand.
The way Juliette tells and photographs the animals' story taps into people's emotions in a way words alone cannot, and that's why the videos reached people grieving, scared, and alone.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 00:01
Welcome to Animals and Us, the podcast that explores and honors the awesomeness of animals and their impact on our well-being. Today's guest is someone whose story has captured hearts all over the world. Juliet Wells is a Queensland-based artist and teacher who, together with her partner Rhys, is the devoted carer of Peggy the Steffi and Molly the Magpie, two unlikely best friends whose story has gone viral and inspired millions. In this episode, Juliet shares how her connection with animals, especially Peggy and Molly, has transformed her life in most unexpected ways. Let's begin.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 00:47
Follow.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 00:48
Good morning, Juliet.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 00:50
Good morning, Natalie. Thanks for having me on your, um, podcast.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 00:54
It's such a pleasure having you here, Juliet. Before we begin about Talking about Peggy and Molly, could you tell us a bit about your background, your, your earlier life, and, and how your, your love and interest in animals and, and art began?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 01:11
Oh, look, it does stem from birth, really. Ever since I was born, I've loved animals, and, uh, I grew up, um, on bordering on Karingai Chase National Park. In New South Wales, and we had a big backyard, and I'd spend most of my days climbing trees or, you know, collecting little cicadas or watching wallabies, or, you know, of course there'd be snakes and funnel-web spiders, so there's things to watch out for. But yeah, I spent most of my days outside just spending time with animals. And then I remember one day I got laughed at from quite a few children. I was walking home, I think I might have been in kindergarten, and there was this big trail of dogs following me. I'd pick up strays, and then my mum would just say to me, 'Can you stop bringing home strays?' Because they'd just hang around and they wouldn't go, and then we didn't know where they lived. And so I've always loved animals, and, um, I didn't realize that I was really into art. I've always been creative, and I've always looked for creative careers. So I started out as a clown at children's birthday parties, and then I was in children's entertainment. And then a few things happened in my life which sort of— it often happens to a lot of people, it changes your life direction. And, um, I had a breakup, so I moved to Queensland, then my father passed away. And, you know, so there's quite a few heavy things, and I found that art really uh, did wonders for my mental health and to get me through those periods of time. And then I realized that I was actually quite good at it. I'd show people and they're like, oh wow, can I buy that? And I said, you want to buy that? I didn't even know. Yeah, yeah, can I buy that? So I joined the local markets and then I started selling my art in a small scale, and people kept coming back and ordering things. And I'm like, wow, okay, maybe I should you know, look at this career path.
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This conversation includes a life shaped by animals from the start, from clown to artist through grief, what resin taught her about control, a baby magpie left alone in the dog park, peggy's phantom pregnancy changes everything and ruby learns gentleness from her mother.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 03:17
Maybe you're onto something.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 03:19
Yeah.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 03:21
How has being an art teacher and being an artist influenced the way you view the world and perhaps influenced the way your relationship with animals?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 03:32
Uh, hugely. Um, when, when you're actually creating— and look, I'm a resin artist, so I don't know if you know much about resin. It's a free-flowing form And it's, it's two, um, sort of two chemicals— not chemicals, there's a hardener and then there's the resin. You put it together, you mix it together, and then you put colors in there, and then you create your artwork. And then it has a glass-like finish when it dries. But if you try to control it, it really does not work. So in learning that from myself is to just be with the paint and sort of, you know, let everything else go from your head. If you're, you know, stressed or, you know, you're trying to control something, it's not going to happen. So, and that's what I actually discovered with my students. Like they'd come in with all sorts of fears or insecurities of perfectionism. And I'm just like, just come in here and enjoy. And, you know, without those boundaries and restrictions, I think you know, you can really start to become one with your art. And I think similarly to animals, you know, if you try and control them and you're harsh, you're not gonna get anywhere with them. But if you are one, and I mean, I use an example with these animals in our home. You know, we provide an environment which is just free, loving, You know, um, you know, it's compassionate, it's calm. I think calm is a big thing, you know, and I use a lot of humor in my life. So, you know, play with them a lot. It creates that environment and you get so much more from, from animals.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 05:20
Mm. Yep. So true. We can see that in, in your many videos of the playfulness and the fun and, and the joy that, that you, you share with the animals. Must be a lovely home environment.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 05:33
Ah, it's fun.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 05:34
Yeah. So how did Peggy the Steffi and Molly the Magpie first enter your life? Can you describe the early days?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 05:44
Well, it certainly did change my life forever. We were— it was in lockdown and we took Peggy for a walk. She was going through her first season, so we took her down to the local dog park when there was no other dogs around and We played ball with her and running around and noticed this abandoned little, tiny little baby magpie. And so we watched for a few hours and, you know, there was no parents around and, you know, it was quite weak. So we made the decision because it was a dog park and it was an off-leash dog park in the afternoons. And we saw up to 40 different breeds of dogs there. So if this little bird had stayed there, he surely wouldn't have made it. So we live just up the road, so we actually took care of him and tried to figure out the next steps. And then Peggy was not sure about this little bird. She's like, "What is this bird doing? Like, go away." And it kept trying to, like, he kept trying to run alongside Peggy and she'd just run away. She was like very, very scared. But then a miracle happened. She actually had a phantom pregnancy. And she started to produce milk for this little bird and she started to nurture this little bird thinking that it was one of her own. And it was just the most beautiful thing to watch. And from then on, they'd secured this bond that, you know, I could only describe as a miracle. Like the things that I witnessed, you know, them cuddling together, Molly falling asleep while standing on Peggy's back. Like, I'm like, is this really happening?
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 07:28
Amazing.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 07:29
It was, it's incredible.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 07:31
Yeah. Did you ever imagine the two of them would have such— it would form such a close, strong friendship?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 07:38
Never. No. If, if you told me that, like, you know, 5 years ago that this was going to happen, I would have just laughed and said, you're crazy. What? Yeah.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 07:48
Yeah. No. And so it's Peggy and Molly that have the very close bond. How does Ruby Ruby is Peggy's daughter. How does Ruby get along with Molly?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 08:04
Uh, well, we, we gave Peggy one litter, so she's desexed now. We gave her the chance to be a mum, and while she was pregnant, uh, Molly used to stand next to Peggy and just sing. So through the stomach of Peggy, Ruby would have heard these beautiful you know, the singing, the warbles, even the barking. Wally barks more than the dogs. Um, yeah. And then the day that, uh, Peggy gave birth to the pups, Wally flew in and he was standing on this, on the fence, because we had her in this little enclosure, and he was singing. And it's, it's almost like Ruby finally got to— well, she couldn't see, it takes them a while to develop their eyes, but it's almost like they had this immediate bond. And Ruby being a mischievous puppy, and, um, she's quite mischievous, Peggy, uh, she taught Ruby how to treat Molly. You know, like if, if Ruby ever got boisterous or was playing, you know, puppy rough games, uh, Peggy would get a toy and she'd distract and take Ruby away. It's almost like Peggy trained Ruby on how to be gentle with Molly. Amazing. Yeah, really amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 09:23
Juliette, many Australians have a sense of fear around magpies because of their swooping behaviour in spring. I remember as a child riding my bike many times with a stick twirling over my head trying to protect myself from magpies, often crashing my bike and ending up in ditches. Can you give us some advice about how to how we should behave and manage magpies during their nesting season?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 09:51
Oh look, I can also relate. The stories I could tell you. One day my friend, she was walking home from school and a magpie grabbed onto her ponytail. She was running along screaming. Oh my gosh. Yeah, like we had quite aggressive magpies as well growing up also, and I was— I too was scared of them. But since knowing Molly and seeing a different side, I've studied quite a bit, and it's, it's not for a huge amount of time, like it's only for a certain amount of time of the year. So they're just being very protective of their young. So, um, you know, a big one is respect their space. So if you know that there's a tree that they particularly don't want you to go near. If you can take another route home or walk around, try and do that. But if not, take the precautions, you know, put like maybe even an umbrella up, put the spikes up on your helmet, things like that. Stay calm, you know, they don't respond well if you're aggressive back. I've seen kids, you know, trying to throw rocks at them and hitting sticks, and it actually makes the situation worse. So it's about being calm and being kind and know that they're just doing it because they're protecting their young. So, and try not to give them eye contact either. I think that's a big one.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 11:19
Watching Peggy and Molly and Ruby together, what have they taught you about animals?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 11:27
Oh, look, um, where do I start? Yeah, you know, it's a big question. You know, animals, they have feelings. You know, there's so much I can teach, but the biggest message for me was love and acceptance in their differences. As we spoke about just now, many people were scared of magpies and probably still are. I found that many people are scared of Peggy and Ruby's breed. The Staffies, because they, they think that they're the Pit Bulls, and Pit Bulls have a very bad name. So when we used to go to the dog park, they weren't the most popular breed. People would stay away from them, or they'd cross the street. And to have these two totally different species coming together and uniting and showing people a different side, I think that, that was the biggest message for me.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 12:26
And obviously you've seen every day you see the sentience of the animals and their deep capacity to, to feel and, and be emotional and have— they have their own individual emotions and personalities.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 12:40
Yes, definitely. Yeah. And their protective instincts, I think, is a big one too. Yes, yes.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 12:50
And on that, on the subject of protection, you've had to protect your, your, um, your animals both emotionally and legally. Can you tell us a bit about the intervention that happened and how Molly was removed from you for a while?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 13:10
Uh, yes, that was, uh, this time last year actually. So yesterday was the day where we went to pick Molly up from the department. So I dropped Molly off on the 1st of March last year And we actually didn't know where he was, and we didn't know whether he was coming back. So that was a very difficult time. And Peggy was very, very depressed, and Ruby was showing signs of being, you know, quite distressed as well in different ways. Like, she'd start tearing up some toys, which she wouldn't normally do. She hear a noise outside and run outside to see if she could see Molly, and Molly wasn't there. So, yeah, yeah, it was quite difficult to watch and be, you know, we could feel it, like they probably felt it from us as well.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 14:07
Yeah.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 14:08
Yes.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 14:09
And how did it affect, how did it affect you and, and Rhys during this time? During her— during Molly's absence?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 14:21
Interestingly enough, it made us stronger. You know, I look back at that time like we were told to just sit and ride the storm, ride the wave, because I mean, you've got media camping at the door. You've got like— we were on the world stage. The Premier of Queensland stepped in, which meant, yeah, we were on you know, every news channel around the world. But interestingly enough, Rhys and myself, we grew very much closer together and we leant on each other when we needed to because there were times when I was starting to get a bit stroppy and cranky and tired. And so I'd step away and he'd step in. Or, you know, if Rhys didn't want to do an interview, which sometimes he doesn't, 'That's fine, I'll step up and do that.' So yeah, it was actually a very, very great time for, for our relationship.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 15:21
Yes, the response from the public worldwide was absolutely enormous. What did that teach you about, about people and about the role that animals play in our society?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 15:35
Oh look, it was, it was so overwhelming. The response from, you know, it felt like an army behind us. And there was like 200,000 signatures on petitions. There was emails to the department. You know, it was overwhelming. And we kept our calm and we made sure that there was no hate speech. We kept everything, you know, amicable and kind. And we all work together for a cause. And I think the fact that these animals have touched people's lives deeply on a daily basis and, you know, I think that's, that's helped because they've had an incredible ability to sense humans' emotions and the way that I showcase them. Taps into, you know, getting them to really feel the emotional, um, bond. And you can only do that with animals because they don't have a language. Their language is, you know, who they are and what they do.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 16:51
Yeah, you know, totally authentically.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 16:53
Yeah, authentic.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 16:55
Yeah, yeah, yep. What's it like? Because you did have— you were in the spotlight and under a lot of pressure. For a long time, particularly during Molly's absence. What was it like having your family under the spotlight?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 17:16
Very, very overwhelming. There was a time when we actually got Molly back, because sometimes we'd be on the front page of the local papers, and we don't read papers and we don't watch the news, so we didn't— we were very unaware of what was going on. And our friends would say, oh, you're on the front page of the Gold Coast Times. And I'm like, oh. So we'd go back home because, you know, you'd go out and people would be pointing at you, they'd be following you. And after we picked Molly up, we were actually quite on edge and quite scared for like a few weeks because, you know, I was going down to our letterbox to pick up a letter and a lady ran from across the road with her dog towards us, and we ran away because we didn't know, oh, are they, are they gonna congratulate us, or is it another thing, you know? And so it took a while to actually sort of readjust and say, hey, we're safe, everything's fine, you know. And we had to work through that, but it was, it was incredible. I've never had that feeling before, like, oh, scared to go outside.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 18:28
Yes. And now, how does it feel knowing that there are— you— that your family is, is loved by hundreds of thousands or millions of people around the world? How does that make you feel?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 18:40
Oh, it's— I can't even get my head around it. You know, it's, it's incredible. It's such a great feeling, you know, the— that we've touched so many people's lives. And on a level that we don't even understand.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 18:56
Yeah. Can you share that one example that you mentioned to me the other day about the lady who was deeply— who you shared how deeply she was touched? I think it was following the death of her husband.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 19:09
His breathing. Yeah. Look, there's so many different stories. I've actually written down a couple because I put a video up the other day and, you know, there's comments like, these animals are teaching us all about life. Living in harmony. These two have a love story that is truly remarkable. It transcends anything we thought we knew about relationships between different species. And there's this particular lady in New South Wales, and her and her husband would watch Peggy and Wally videos together. And she just recently lost her husband, and she's very afraid of thunderstorms. And so what she did was she hid under her covers and We're talking about late '70s, early '80s, 'cause normally her husband would, you know, be there and calm her down when the thunderstorms were coming. So she had to learn to cope. And so she grabbed some Peggy and Molly videos and she hid under the covers and she was watching them until the storm passed. And it's just incredible, like the stories on a daily basis, you know, Rhys is a crier and he's often in tears reading something about somebody who's been deeply touched.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 20:27
Yeah, yeah, by Peggy and Molly. How wonderful. So how has all of this, this extraordinary experience of Peggy and, and Peggy and Molly and their extraordinary relationship, how has this changed you personally, Juliette?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 20:43
Oh, I can say I'm a totally different person. Totally different person. Um, I used to struggle because, uh, being an artist, I wanted to put some of my art online and things like that. And I'd struggle to even do a live video or a video of myself. And also Rhys, he's an introvert. He didn't even like photos taken of himself. And fast forward to today, it's almost like there's nothing that we can't handle, you know, standing in front of a press conference of all these cameras and, you know, being in that moment and you know, getting through this with support. Like, it's just— we're incredibly different people than we were before we met Molly.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 21:30
So there's been a lot of growth from the adversity, but also the rich times that you've had from picking Molly.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 21:37
Very much so. Yeah, very much so.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 21:41
Juliette, for the people in the audience who might be going through tough times right now, What would you say to them about the role that animals can play in their lives towards their comfort or well-being?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 21:57
Animals are quiet healers. They speak in a language which is deeper than words. And, um, you know, they, they're always there for you, and they remind you that you're never alone. And, you know, if you study, like I watch a lot of documentaries about animals and you see so much resilience, you know, like there may be a time where you're in danger or you might be going through the toughest of times, but there's always sun behind that cloud. There's always better days. You know, you, you, it's, you're never stuck in it. So I think animals help to sort of, you know, bring that into reality in a simple form.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 22:49
Yes. Yeah, well said. And what do you, Juliette, think that the world sees that's so special about Peggy and Molly's friendship? Why has it resonated so deeply with so many people around the world?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 23:08
Oh, look, I do think it's a combination. Being a creative and an artist and a storyteller and being an advocate for love, kindness, peace. I've brought that through in a way that I've actually seen in the animals. So it's, I mean, people tell me like it's the way I write, it's the way I take photos. And just to see this unique friendship of love and acceptance. And, you know, Peggy's a staffy and they're renowned for like their jaws are like a vault, like, you know, and then you've got magpies who are renowned for swooping and being aggressive. And then to see them just playing and accepting and cuddling together and lying in the sun and just having so much respect for each other. I think it's, it's just people are used to seeing that.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 24:11
Yeah.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 24:12
Yes.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 24:13
And I've just taken note of those words that you use, that the, that the animals and the way you have, have, um, presented the animals to the public, they're, they're embodiments of, using your words, love, kindness, peace, and acceptance, which surely is what our world needs right now. Love, kindness, peace, and acceptance. So very, very important. They've been very important messages that, that they're— and, and you are presenting to the world. Juliette, you've written a beautiful book with your lovely creativity and your lovely messages, and your book is filled with photos and uplifting quotes about, about friendship. I bought a copy for my grandsons. Can you tell us about your book and what you hope readers take away from it?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 25:06
Um, it's, it's a beautiful book. Like, I've put so much of my heart and soul and my creative abilities, you know. I, I take my work very seriously, you know. I think it's, it's funny because I started out as a children's photographer, and then I did family portraits, and I've done little bits and pieces along the way. So I've brought that all in because they say don't work with kids and animals, and there's a reason why. So I've actually put a book together about simple life lessons and what it means to be a true friend, and also what it means to be kind, humble, and happy. Um, you know, I think in life we complicate things, and it's just bringing back to the basics, you know. Um, some people thought it was a children's book, but Many adults love it. It is very simple.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 25:58
Yeah.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 25:59
And I do too. Yeah, yeah. I read it every day. I love it.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 26:04
Yeah, yeah. Wonderful. And you have some very exciting news. I understand that Peggy and Molly will soon be seen in animation, which is so exciting. Can you tell us about that?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 26:18
Oh, it's overwhelming actually. There was a producer from Melbourne, a producer named Ken from Zentrix Studios. Melbourne, and he kept contacting me, and we were like very on edge, and I thought, oh, this guy's a scammer, you know, and I kept ignoring him and I didn't answer him, and he, he was very persistent, and I thought, oh, hang on a minute, I think he's the real deal. He wants to create an animation series about these beautiful animals, and I thought, well, why not, you know, let's widen the audience because we have a lot of followers but not many kids. And I think kids, they're the next generation. And how important is it for them to hear and see these messages and to do it in a way where they can relate in animation? So they're actually creating the series as we speak. And of course, there's a lot to it, scriptwriting and things like that. It's about Peggy, Molly, and Ruby and their relationship. But then they've got all these other friends. You've got two horses named Titan and Tweedy, and they're a comedic duo, so they're going to be fun. Then you've got Terry the turtle, who is wise, so he teaches them lessons. You've got a sassy cat. You've got, you know, an English wolfhound. You've got all different types of dogs and they're actually going to be teaching the lessons that, um, you know, that we want about kindness, love, obviously covering topics like bullying and things like that. So yeah, but in a positive way, of course.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 28:04
Yeah. And once again, promoting those values that you mentioned before— love, kindness, peace, and acceptance. How wonderful! I'm so looking forward to, to the release of of that animation.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 28:16
Yeah.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 28:16
And finally, Juliette, drawing from your deep connection with animals and all your life experience, the good and the bad, what would you like the audience to understand about other animals?
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 28:31
Um, well, a big one is animals have feelings and, um, they speak a language that words can't. They have personalities. Um, yeah, I think a lot of time we learn most of life, life's lessons from animals. Because me as a human, you know, being conditioned, going to school, can't do this, can't do that. Yeah, well, animals just, they live in the moment. They just don't really care about, you know, the, you know, being rich, being poor. They don't care if you having a bad hair day, um, they just show you love regardless. Yeah, you know.
Natalie Stockdale (Host) · 29:14
Yeah. Juliette, thank you very much for firstly for joining us today on the Animals and Us podcast, and secondly for sharing these beautiful souls, your animals, and your— and yourself of course, with the rest of the world. It really has making— it really is making a difference to the world, spreading love, kindness, peace, and acceptance. Wonderful message. So thank you, thank you very much.
Juliette Wells (Guest) · 29:44
Thank you so much for interviewing me. I've had a lot of fun. Thanks, Julianne. Thanks, Natalie. Follow. Animals and Us is a production of Kintsugi Heroes. Thank you to Xavier Rudd for his permission to use Follow the Sun as our theme music for this series. If you enjoyed this conversation, share the podcast with a friend and let us know by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you'd like to support Kintsugi Heroes and the stories we share, head to kintsugiheroes.com.au and follow the instructions to make a tax-deductible donation. Thank you for listening, and we'll see you next time. A brand new moon, brand new sun.
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